1.7 Sawami: workshop / cunning confidence / ugly creature / Japanese fairytale about a turtle (3 min)
‘real I’
2.1.3 Sawami: following the ‘law of nature’ / human nature to come out / individual ways to follow the law of nature / channeling, like a musician (4 min.)
2.3-2.6 Breaking through
Victor on his experiences of ‘breaking through’ in the work of Emio Greco / PC, and the meanings ‘breaking through’ has for him.
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2.3 Breaking through – Being in a survival state
2.3.1 Victor: I wanted to ‘breakthrough’ / not crazy enough / in ‘Extra Dry’ it worked sometimes / survival state / not thinking / close to your self (3 min.)
2.6 Breaking through: Being onself
Victor: the wish to be myself on stage / everything is in my hands / I was talking / I was liberated for saying it / let’s do it, live, life (3 min.)
2.7.2 Victor: not out of myself / how it has to look / it doesn’t work in the studio / the ‘truth of it’ is missing / naked / suffering / ‘voyeur of my pain’ / looking at each other / space inside the body / sensitivity / feeling free (11 min.)
2.9 The ‘Real I’ to come out
2.9.1 Sawami: same movement / same intention / real person is coming out / fragment: ‘Double Points: Two’ (2 min.)
2.9.2 Sawami: ‘real I’ to come out / from the human body /different from ‘identity’ or ‘self-image’ / being here / the act of survival (4 min.)
2.9.3 Sawami: ‘real I’ / Emio’s body / fragment: ‘Double Points: One’ / strong trunk / immediate connection between ‘internal movement’ and extremities (see also 2.9.3.a) / balletdancers / conscious – unconscious / Emio has a big ego (see also 2.9.3.b) (7 min.)
2.9.3.b Sawami: he doesn’t take himself serious / serving the work (2 min.)
Bram Vreeswijk 