1.6 Sawami: seeing reality / like a cat / having something to express (5 min.)
breaking through
1.7 Sawami: workshop / cunning confidence / ugly creature / Japanese fairytale about a turtle (3 min)
2.3-2.6 Breaking through
Victor on his experiences of ‘breaking through’ in the work of Emio Greco / PC, and the meanings ‘breaking through’ has for him.
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2.3 Breaking through – Being in a survival state
2.3.1 Victor: I wanted to ‘breakthrough’ / not crazy enough / in ‘Extra Dry’ it worked sometimes / survival state / not thinking / close to your self (3 min.)
2.4 Breaking through – You feel like an animal
Victor: energy / excitement / animal / delicate / lizard / bird / it’s real / dangerous situations / primitive reaction / not lying / snake / disappearing / relax / alert (8 min.)
2.5 Breaking through: Unlocking, finding the exit
Victor: ‘Extra Dry’/ going through the jungle / finding the exit / unlocking things inside yourself / unlocking doors / labyrinth / ‘opening heart’ (8 min.)
2.6 Breaking through: Being onself
Victor: the wish to be myself on stage / everything is in my hands / I was talking / I was liberated for saying it / let’s do it, live, life (3 min.)
2.7.2 Victor: not out of myself / how it has to look / it doesn’t work in the studio / the ‘truth of it’ is missing / naked / suffering / ‘voyeur of my pain’ / looking at each other / space inside the body / sensitivity / feeling free (11 min.)
Bram Vreeswijk 