1.3.1 Sawami: ‘Extra Dry’ / a sense of hope / two bodies effecting the space / somehow space is never empty – ‘like telepathy’ (4 min.)
space
1.4 Sawami: the position of holding a baby / space inside the body / prayer / ballerina (7 min.)
1.6 Sawami: seeing reality / like a cat / having something to express (5 min.)
2.7.2 Victor: not out of myself / how it has to look / it doesn’t work in the studio / the ‘truth of it’ is missing / naked / suffering / ‘voyeur of my pain’ / looking at each other / space inside the body / sensitivity / feeling free (11 min.)
2.10 Reality
Sawami: articulated trunk / entrance to reality / spiral down beyond the body (2 min.)
Bram Vreeswijk 