2.1.2 Victor: I found it weird / it has a purpose / movement material that is ‘strange and yet logic’ / going deep into sensation / you get addicted to sensation (5 min.)
life force
2.2 Life force
2.2.1 Sawami: fragment ‘Double Points: Two’/ Emio’s body / pregnant woman / balloon / horse / movement material is made that way / charged / expanding / the fire is burning / life force / he understands what it means to be alive (4 min.)
2.2.2 Sawami: fragment ‘Extra Dry’/ ‘despair’ / urgency / motor / unlocking door (3 min.)
2.3-2.6 Breaking through
Victor on his experiences of ‘breaking through’ in the work of Emio Greco / PC, and the meanings ‘breaking through’ has for him.
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2.3 Breaking through – Being in a survival state
2.3.1 Victor: I wanted to ‘breakthrough’ / not crazy enough / in ‘Extra Dry’ it worked sometimes / survival state / not thinking / close to your self (3 min.)
2.4 Breaking through – You feel like an animal
Victor: energy / excitement / animal / delicate / lizard / bird / it’s real / dangerous situations / primitive reaction / not lying / snake / disappearing / relax / alert (8 min.)
2.6 Breaking through: Being onself
Victor: the wish to be myself on stage / everything is in my hands / I was talking / I was liberated for saying it / let’s do it, live, life (3 min.)
2.11 A thin line
Victor: A thin line / energy / breathing / essential source / break through me / fight for life / lizard / snake (5 min.)
Bram Vreeswijk 