2.1.2 Victor: I found it weird / it has a purpose / movement material that is ‘strange and yet logic’ / going deep into sensation / you get addicted to sensation (5 min.)
Author: Bram Vreeswijk
2.1.3 Sawami: following the ‘law of nature’ / human nature to come out / individual ways to follow the law of nature / channeling, like a musician (4 min.)
2.2 Life force
2.2.1 Sawami: fragment ‘Double Points: Two’/ Emio’s body / pregnant woman / balloon / horse / movement material is made that way / charged / expanding / the fire is burning / life force / he understands what it means to be alive (4 min.)
2.2.2 Sawami: fragment ‘Extra Dry’/ ‘despair’ / urgency / motor / unlocking door (3 min.)
2.3-2.6 Breaking through
Victor on his experiences of ‘breaking through’ in the work of Emio Greco / PC, and the meanings ‘breaking through’ has for him.
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2.3 Breaking through – Being in a survival state
2.3.1 Victor: I wanted to ‘breakthrough’ / not crazy enough / in ‘Extra Dry’ it worked sometimes / survival state / not thinking / close to your self (3 min.)
2.3.2 Victor / Sawami: jumping exercise / survival state / the body itself starts thinking (3 min.)
2.4 Breaking through – You feel like an animal
Victor: energy / excitement / animal / delicate / lizard / bird / it’s real / dangerous situations / primitive reaction / not lying / snake / disappearing / relax / alert (8 min.)
2.5 Breaking through: Unlocking, finding the exit
Victor: ‘Extra Dry’/ going through the jungle / finding the exit / unlocking things inside yourself / unlocking doors / labyrinth / ‘opening heart’ (8 min.)
2.6 Breaking through: Being onself
Victor: the wish to be myself on stage / everything is in my hands / I was talking / I was liberated for saying it / let’s do it, live, life (3 min.)
2.7 The final scene of ‘Extra Dry’
2.7.1 Victor: final scene ‘Extra Dry’ in studio / explanation / amounts of curiosity / sensing (4 min.)
Bram Vreeswijk 